Ancient Cryptography

General => Code of the Week => Topic started by: Stun90 on July 01, 2007, 09:40:47 PM

Title: new code
Post by: Stun90 on July 01, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
Here is a new code. It is simple and I hope as many will attempt to solve it as possible. I hope that someone solves it before I get home from vacation at the end of the week. I broke the cypher into 4 lines only for the reason that it will not be too wide for this post. None of the lines  represent the end of a word, except for the last line. Please post whether you solved it or not. Good luck!

0100100001100001011100000111000001111001001000000100100101101110
0110010001100101011100000110010101101110011001000110010101101110
0110001101100101001000000100010001100001011110010010000001000001
011011010110010101110010011010010110001101100001

Hint: The code is binary
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Stun90 on July 09, 2007, 08:24:24 PM
I am back from vacation in the Aderondacks in upstate NY. I thought someone would have answered even if they could not solve it  :'(   Would anyone want us to continue to try to solve cryptograms?
The answer was "Happy Independence Day America"
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on July 10, 2007, 01:04:28 PM
 ;D I just found your code of the week which was in the binary code.  I used a binary convertor off the internet and it gave "Happy Independence Day America"  as you had in your last post.  A little late I admit, but the answer was easy to obtain.

Dutch
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on July 14, 2007, 02:34:02 PM
I'm glad to see some user-submitted ciphers, I was a bit busy due to vacations myself. Hooray for binary code! :D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Padmini on July 18, 2007, 03:11:33 PM
hey,
any new codes?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Stun90 on July 20, 2007, 10:33:16 AM
There will be more codes. Simple ones at first. We will hopefully grow into more comples codes with discussion here. Just hang in there.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Stun90 on July 25, 2007, 07:13:23 PM
This is just a simple substitution cryptogram. You substitute one letter for another and it remains the same throughout the puzzle. Length of words, word formation and punctuation are clues to solving this puzzle. Just like you see in the newspaper every day :)   I hope someone solves this one. If you have any questions please ask. Please try to solve it and post it before Saturday, August 4th. I will post the answer that day. Good luck!!!!

Lmy  tyzcjm  rec  lcilm  ot  vecy  acyjoeit  lmzk  olt  aettyttoek  -  Zbpycl  Yoktlyok

It is a saying by a famous person (his/her name is included).
HINT: Y= E
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on July 26, 2007, 08:24:21 AM
 ;D  The search for truth is more precious than its possession.  Albert Einstein

Please make the next one just a wee harder.  This one took me 7 minutes.  But it was a great  opener for my day anyway.

Dutch
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Stun90 on August 05, 2007, 02:31:56 PM
Your answer is correct Dutch. Very good. "The search for truth is more precious than its possession.  Albert Einstein" It was intentially a very easy crypt with the intensions to get some more people to solve it and to create some chatter in here. More difficult ones will come of course but they will be easier in the beginning Hopefully they will get more difficult each time. Another one soon. Thanks for taking the time to solve it.  ;D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on September 12, 2007, 10:55:27 AM
 :D  Here is a new cipher challenge until something better comes along.  I will post the answer in about a week unless someone solves it before then.


BXJ  KI  CDJ  SX  JDD FRHJATKBRH;  AJ  AI  SXJJXH  JD  VRMX  DBW,  IXTDCWVRCW     WAREDCWI  JVRC  CDCX  RJ  RBB.

I have that you have fun solving this.

Dutch
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Stun90 on September 18, 2007, 01:19:47 PM
Let us not be too particular; it is better to have old secondhand diamonds than none at all.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on September 18, 2007, 10:16:18 PM
I added a spoiler mod, so that way people can post answers without inadvertently spoiling others. :D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on September 25, 2007, 08:22:20 AM
The answer to my submission is: 
LET US NOT BE TOO PARTICULAR;  IT IS BETTER TO HAVE OLD, SECONDHAND DIAMONDS THAN NONE AT ALL.

dUTCH
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on September 25, 2007, 09:13:41 AM
Close, I fixed it for you. You didn't have the spoiler tag surrounding the solution. Also, thanks for continuing to provide ciphers to crack. :) I'll see about adding some of my own when I find the time.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on September 28, 2007, 10:41:25 AM
 :) Thanks.  I'll remember how to do it in the future.

Dutch
Title: Re: new code
Post by: catcherintherye on March 16, 2008, 11:09:08 PM
It looks like its been awhile since someone has posted in this thread, but I thought I'd submit a code to see if anyone wants to take a crack at it. Once you know the key, it's fairly simple - I'm sure someone can create a javascript to crack similar codes.

A simple quote by Leonardo da Vinci:

NDHKGeXfOT  go  pCZ  PhqhiVra  pJldiqsjywtkkI.

Hint: Easiest if you start with the first word.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on March 28, 2008, 08:38:18 AM
Catcherintherye has given me permission to publish the solution to his cipher challenge.  The answer is:  "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."  By running down the alphabet as in a "caesar" type cipher, most of the plain text (from the upper case letters - shift 5) became evident.  The lower case letters were in a shift between 0 and 4.    Even the simplest things can be quite tricky.

Dutch
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 28, 2008, 09:55:36 AM
Great challenge! ;D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: catcherintherye on March 28, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
Thanks, and great job Dutch!

A little more on the explanation - the first occurrence of a letter is signified by a capital letter. For example, the "S" in "simplicity" is a capital "N". The 2nd occurrence of an "s" is in "is" so you shift 1 over from "n" to "o". The 3rd "s" is in "sophistication" so you shift once more from "o" to "p". So you have N=S, o=s, p=s, q=s.

A little tricky at the end, where the final two "k"s represent different letters - the 1st k is "i" and the second "k" is "o".
 
:)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on June 04, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
I'll endeavour to put in a different cipher every week - some easy, some not so - for starters try the following - so as not to spoil it for others, please don't post the solution until a weeks gone by.
(in the following plaintext the 'f' often represents the long 's' which fell out of use some time back and I've used a font which is similar to the original handwriting of the cipher itself)

circa. 1710

‘Mr. Forbes a scotchman being presented to Rougham living by Ld. Chanceler Cowper seemed a man of good temper & condition, but under a mistake as to the value of the living which had been he presented greater yn. proved. However continued there about half a year & then dyed in the morning of fuch a day as of hapned to dine there. Mr North being yn. at London his steward brought to me a fmall blew filk bag, wch. the woman yt. laid out the corps found tyed with a fmall riband about the ministers neck. upon opening the bag I found a paper very near the size of this, discoloured very yellow wth. sweat. I transcribed it in the fame character & words as they stood there. I was the rather induced to it having just before read in ye account of the Gowryes conspiracy in Scotland. The Earl Gowry after his death stripist was found to wear fuch a charm about his neck. wch. tis sd. prevented the bleeding of his wounds till the sd charm was taken off.’

Eywn nydlab ase byw udgaa eywd gmw yw esa lbib bltw udcab x lwr byw lwca sazwr yln sdb byac ys xdshr qd  ysab byge sm spew lwaca astr lsn mgb sxdshr mgd yscw mgb sm spew eyg maq wewdeeda bywaw eqdra aysii               mwcwd tw bdoctiwr elby sm spew snwm snwm acwwb lwaca.

Tony
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on June 09, 2008, 05:16:08 PM
PADLOCK CIPHER

This is a small box with 26 cardboard strips and an explanatory pamphlet published by (Crowther & Goodman, London 1899) – each strip, on both sides, having a plain alphabet above one of the caesar alphabets beneath – the pamphlet explains how to make a polyalphabetical cipher and finishes with the following statement:-

In spite of the skill of experts, and the acknowledged difficulty of producing a cipher which they cannot solve, the proprietors of “Padlock Cipher are confident enough to offer £100 for first correct solution of the following cipher sentence which reaches the hands of the publishers of “Padlock Cipher.

PRIZE CIPHER SENTENCE.

XQQQMY PGO HLL QXDJR WX APV ZXJD QGSK DIGZNOGA MJF KUR XF UKX UZD YDSFH NTQAB TYTHAECUB AG VMM JHHMOQ JMEGJRW AST SFTHANZGSB WUZZWW BQTXA CJ OTH UERHWTVQS.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on June 16, 2008, 07:48:55 AM
One of my favourites -

From a Loyalist Lady to Charles II – circa 1650

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/loyalistlady.gif)


'"Tho I scorn to fawn or flatter yet my heart is ever true all inconcious of the matter you reject a prize
your due take me try me when you will faithful you will find me still."

Is anydoby out there?
Anybody solved the previous 2 yet - are they too easy, too hard?
If you need a hint or an explanation just ask.

Tony
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on June 16, 2008, 09:08:16 AM
I plan to get cracking on these soon, they're pretty interesting. :)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on June 20, 2008, 07:50:40 AM
 ???  I am working on this cipher but am having a bit of difficulty.  It would seem from the message preceding the cipher that it is written in what would be 17th or 18th century English.  That is my only real difficulty.

Dutch
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on June 20, 2008, 09:04:30 AM
Lets have a recap - of the 3 ciphers given so far –

The first (the Charm) is simple substitution with word divisions (though some of the divisions are misleading – presumably from it being copied several times) – the easiest way to solve it is to compare the short words – i.e. ‘yw’, ‘byw’ (appears twice), ‘bywaw’, ‘elby’ – there are about only 25 common 2 letter words and trying these we soon arrive at  ‘he’, ‘the’, ‘there/these’ ‘with/both’ etc. etc. – it’s also a reciprocal key which makes it even easier though many errors have crept in.

The second (the Padlock Cipher) is polyalphabetical with a period of 26 –

the period can be found by noting the distances between repeated sequences and finding a common factor or by lining up in the following manner and looking for repetitions in the columns (these repeats appear more frequently in the one with the correct period as each column is enciphered under the same Caesar alphabet) i.e. -

period 26
XQQQMYPGOHLLQXDJRWXAPVZXJD
QGSKDIGZNOGAMJFKURXFUKXUZD
YDSFHNTQABTYTHAECUBAGVMMJH
HMOQJMEGJRWASTSFTHANZGSBWU
ZZWWBQTXACJOTHUERHWTVQS
00110011100111011111011011 = 17

period 25
XQQQMYPGOHLLQXDJRWXAPVZXJ
DQGSKDIGZNOGAMJFKURXFUKXU
ZDYDSFHNTQABTYTHAECUBAGVM
MJHHMOQJMEGJRWASTSFTHANZG
SBWUZZWWBQTXACJOTHUERHWTV
QS
0100100101001010100001010 = 9

period 24
XQQQMYPGOHLLQXDJRWXAPVZX
JDQGSKDIGZNOGAMJFKURXFUK
XUZDYDSFHNTQABTYTHAECUBA
GVMMJHHMOQJMEGJRWASTSFTH
ANZGSBWUZZWWBQTXACJOTHUE
RHWTVQS
102110101100001100000110 = 12

Having found the period (26)-
(every other word is underlined to mark the word divisions)

XQQQMYPGOHLLQXDJRWXAPVZXJD
QGSKDIGZNOGAMJFKURXFUKXUZD
YDSFHNTQABTYTHAECUBAGVMMJH
HMOQJMEGJRWASTSFTHANZGSBWU
ZZWWBQTXACJOTHUERHWTVQS


in the bottom two rows starting at the 12th column are two 3 letter words that line up – using a caesar alphabet on each column if ‘AST’ = ‘the’ then ‘OTH’ will equal ‘his’; whereas if ‘OTH’ =’the’ then ‘AST’ must equal ‘fgq’ - (had neither of these been ‘the’ we would have tried other common 3 letter words or ‘the’ in other places) - so for column 12, 13 & 14 we must advance +19,+15,+11 letters in the alphabet respectively.

in row 2 column 13 & 14 begins another 3 letter word ‘MJF’ advancing +15 & +11 we get ’bu-‘ obviously ‘but’ – we can now fill in all the letters in columns 12,13,14 & 15 the rest follows easily and our claim for the £100 prize goes in by the next post!

The third (Musical cipher by a Loyalist Lady)
you’ll need to print this out and try a bit of origami on it – a couple of ‘valley & mountain’ folds are needed to reveal the message.

Tony
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on June 21, 2008, 04:53:36 AM
Dutch,

I had a bit of trouble with it as well - it's not so much the old English as the errors it contains -

page 66 out of 142 on the following web site gives a version of it and puts it in context.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2376310/Three-Thousand-Years-of-Mental-Healing-by-Cutten-George-Barton

Tony
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on June 22, 2008, 04:14:51 AM
Here's this weeks cipher-

Sir Thomas Roe to Mr Secr. Calvert 1623

Right Honourable
My last letters of ye second of May, left your Hos in expectation of ye succes, and execution of ye ceuetunucens of ye truecanrnutu of ceuenunr: in this trcruece and of ye nunscune procured. Wee then expected, to heare of nothing butt nsuueueu. Since there is nuueuecatetucu from him another nuuruununene: whom brought mee only crnrtu nrtuceceuetu from ye Du of cecruenn til; without any mention of ye affaires of those parts, wch madame gave mee some suspicion. Butt the nuuruununene: promising so came to netrtunutatu, with mee, and failing, as it were wholly uetucensuecauruutu from any correspondence or conference with me. I began to think there was some alteration either in their dessigns or their ceuetenece this made mee more inquisitive, and at ye first I could cucanenucrtetuue, nothing but that wch  was given out publiquely, that hee was nucrurtu, only to nanunecetunr the netenunueruens, and to chaunge something in the manor, and other circumstances depending these on, and this much he professed to 180, But he having received fresh, and uacrercu nucutecanutu, that the necenucetune afembled nunrtunu catenrcanu in Ceuenunrne were very loath for going? a nsnuueue, or to breake with 102, they ... ... two nucrururcanene cacrnrtuuene, to treat of ... nunutu who were at tecatunrnrnu well received: and from them another, the nuuenunauu: of neceuecauacrnr cateur was sent to ceuenunrns: this made mee think that he did play with uucrcena nanunrcune, for it was incongruous, at ye same tyme publiquely to sollicite ye nunscune, and to ceuetunucetu ye trtununutu, without a purpose to~ receive one. Which made mee desirous to know ye truthe and I am netunuuetucecenrns informed, that his canrne ceuetenuce cacrnrne, are wholly cucrnrceuenu uens, and that hee doth procure to uetucensuetu ye former Commands given to the uununenenutune, to move their nuueurns, so that it seems hee had never any purpose to make a nsnuueue, but only to uununrnrnunrnutu by ye countenance thereof his natunuuetune, and last nuuauetutuurtunrcene with 102. That this is alltogether true, I will not give my word, not having had tyme to search it to the bottome. You knowing that hee doth ceuetunucetu, and being confidant hee will, make trtununutu, I thought fit to enforme your Honor of ... ... heard, and conceived, least any of our friends should be deceived in him. I have started 108 with this discovery; hee will not yett believe it, though many circumstances make him doubtfull, professing then, that hee and necenuce.. certenty both of his nrtuuacrcecatucecacrnr, and succefse.
I have lately received ... from ye Duke of Zbarasky, sent by a nuncio with dispatch to ye port, the fubstance whereof are only a declaration of ye acceptance of ye Articles of ye treaty by that king and stat on condition, that ye Tartars may bee restrayned from their continual incursions, and desiring to certify the alterations made in transfcribing ye Capitulations after ye Agreement, ffrom thence I receive, that an Earle of Orkeney .... I do not knowe it arrived at that court netunuuetucenrns to nrtuuacrcecanucetu some business from his urnucatunecens.
Of all those affaires I will render an ample and true accouups by the next, now I rather agree.. at then assure any thing. only this I repeat with confidence, that uutucenanrtuur will receive ye world to ye providine of this trcrnecetu, or to ye utter reigne of his owne honor, ffor he seekes a nrtunuuatetu with 102, and 13’6: and ye urnuueuecanuuatu of ye cunuteuanacetuue of ye later, and ye nrtucanutu of ye first, thereby to make sure nunrnrcanu nrnutu with bo.... his side I am of opinion he will at last adhere.
Here are some troubles, newly begunn in Asia, by ye moving of ye Bassa of Arzerum, and a Generall named to goe against him. Butt he pretends reformation, who soldiery of ye citty are loath to come to blows; it is thought they will not move, or if they doe, are apten to mutiny, then to fight. This will bring some alteration and trouble here. but as yet it being only in ye beginnings, I would neither omitt to give some intimation, nor trouble your Hor with long discourses, only, that from hence also you may collect, that 102 having made truce in uutuueurnunrns and cenacane necenucetu being so full of Domestique ceuecrtuuunrtu, it is very probable that ye truecanrnutu of ceuenunrns: will not provoke an enemy, if he can have an advantagious peace, only those nunscune shall show themselves to advance his conclusion, and to bee dismissed. I will daily expect to receive some direction from your Honor, and some answere from France to putt ye Ambassador and mee into a better way of Correspondence, wch wee ourselves cannot find. I doubt not that I have troubled your Hor enough and that it is tyme to recommend myself to yor favor, as

Yor Honors most Humble Servant Thomas Roe

Constple 11/21 July 1623


(where you see ... is my inability to read the correspondents handwriting)

Tony
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Dutch on June 25, 2008, 12:56:27 PM
I have the answers to the charm cipher and the padlock cipher.  The technique for the charm cipher is simple substitution.  Tony said that there are some errors in the cipher, but should not cause too many problems.  My solution was close to what he had.  It is a very good challenge.

Tony stated that the period of the padlock cipher is 26.  By there being 26 cardboard strips in the box, it seemed that they used all of them in the puzzle.  They did.  His tip was that the group "AST" is the word "THE".    That gave me the break that I needed.  Keep plugging at it and you can solve it.

My thanks to Tony for his help and for breathing some life back into this section of our group.  Keep sending the problems.  :D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on June 25, 2008, 02:54:06 PM
Yes, thanks for helping make this forum a little more active. :) I love the new challenges. I might try adding more of my own cipher challenges as well now that college is over and I have no excuses.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on June 28, 2008, 06:34:39 PM
This weeks cipher concerns rather delicate matters -

Viscount Scudamore Ambassador in France 1636

…. an offer is 21.18.64.32.75. made to the 13.26.14.69.33.49.95.66.53.50. of 241. that 241. would accept for 21.23.33.54.37.3.76.4.28. 161. where unto the partie to whom the offer is made anewe and that 161.47. is held to be uncapable of 72.10.11.87.9.55.76.65.73.61.97.25.16.87.10.83. having suffered 78.96.32.33.75.25.76.18. to be to much 48.13.26.30.64.50.66. by 69.55.60.64.56.30.96.50.23.15.8. in 127. to wch 156. replied that that was untrue, and a 33.15.13.27.16.69.25.57.22.67.69.49.89.17.99.85.29.83.65.161.60.72.39.28.152. soe there is 95.28.73.53.46.32.50.79.64.32.60.88.75.83.48.54.34.53.54.241. whose 32.18.48.46.32.27. this 13.26.14.71.33.49.11.66.84.87. doth stay to expect.
     The Polish amb~. has intimated to this K. the desire of the K. his M~. to be a Mediat~. of the generall peace. Answeare is given, that they cannot admitt of him under that title, in regard that the Pope hath allready engaged himself to mediate. The Pope replies, that there being diverse persons to be treated with whoe will not submit to the Pope, the K. of Poland may be admitted to second the Pope by mediating with those persons. That 71.82.72.69.49.88.71.74.84.50. saith, that no Amb~. was ever better received in 101. then 78.75.96. at his coming thither, or worse and afterwards.
     From Vienna 314. is given, that 201. hath sent to M. 25.64.20.71.55.64.94. in 280. directing him to represent 305. the great danger he is in, and that if he will be contented but to leave 126. then 201. will give him 34.21.64.17.85.59.48.57.10.65. of 32.29.39.69.25.57.60.78.79.77.78. of 27.96.33.49. besides other thinges that shall be advantageous both to himself and to 21.23.33.54.61.53.36.88.4.

Paris 15/25 July
1636
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on July 06, 2008, 07:26:31 AM
This weeks cipher comes from 'Cyphers - A Treatise on the Art of Decyphering’ by Philip Thicknesse 1772

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/thicknesse.gif)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on July 13, 2008, 09:25:41 AM
Of the previous 3 ciphers the first by ‘Sir Thomas Roe’ – with only 8 different letters used in the cipher they must first be divided into pairs – this gives us just over 20 different pairs checking the frequencies of these pairs we find a match to normal frequencies and can now treat it as a simple substitution – the pairs suggest a checkerboard arrangement and the 8 different letters turn out to form a Latin key phrase around an alphabet with no ‘j’ or ‘v’

The second ‘Viscount Scudamore’ is a homophonic cipher – this is a good example of why you should never intermingle cipher and plaintext – the easiest way to a solution is to guess the second word (which appears elsewhere in the message in plaintext although in an abbreviated form) – and the fact that the numbers were NOT assigned randomly render its solution rather easy, the only tricky bit is sorting out the nulls.

The third ‘Cyphers – Thicknesse’ – the characters are from the Ethiopic & Etruscan alphabets -  I really struggled with this one – I won’t spoil it by revealing the ‘twist’ but if you’re really struggling too, the 3 letter word that repeats 6 times does represent ‘the’, persist with that and the message you’ll eventually uncover is well worth the effort.

This week’s cipher –

circa 1700

“Ch1962s th2 g921t 1s 35st 18d g44d

1s 2529 c172 4f 94y16 b644d;

t4 t945b62s b4982, h2 2196y k825

5h1t k38gs 1s 728 192 s5b32ct t4.”

Title: Re: new code
Post by: Don Crownover on July 15, 2008, 11:31:49 PM
Thanks for that last easy one. Some of us are in over our heads - but still trying!
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on July 16, 2008, 04:57:40 AM
Thanks for posting Don - I'm just glad to know there are people out there actually interested in ciphers - with so few replies or posts I was begining to think I was whistling in the wind.

Also a warm welcome to Goofy, Tushar, Tophatsaremagic, Eloise, Apok, Hooksetters, Roboman & Tycho, who have all joined us in the last month.

Tony

Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on July 16, 2008, 08:38:29 AM
Yeah, I'm still crunching away at these in my spare time too. I think what I love most is the history beinhd these ciphers. :)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on July 19, 2008, 09:12:12 AM
No cipher this week - I thought you might enjoy this rebus instead -

from Princess Louise to Lord Goring circa 1640

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/rebuspb.gif)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on July 19, 2008, 10:57:30 AM
Wow, what a cute rebus.  :D Some of the pictures are a little hard to decipher, but I get the gist of the message. I should send messages between *my* sisters like that. XD
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on July 19, 2008, 11:42:28 AM
Aaron - in the original which I copied that from the  'sis' is written on top of what was once 'cou' - so you better write to your cou-suns as well.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on July 19, 2008, 12:21:10 PM
*chuckles*
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on July 27, 2008, 07:35:13 AM
Welcome Indrid, Sandeep & Emily

This weeks cipher is the title page and first paragraph of a book written entirely in cipher -

FOGBOLF DBOFOBWOP

JM LYO

UFFEGJULJEM

ES

NUJPOM AMJLH UNP ULLUGYNOML.
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“Vonon ubo flbemcofl.” – Ofpb. 3. 11.


LONDON.
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M.DCCC.XXXV.


UMGJOML NÝFLOBJOF

JMLBEPAGLJEM

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L’o olovutjem es Iesopy le l’o yighosl pjgnjth jm Oghpl, bondorop yjn ubselato jm l’ul geantrý. Yif uatherith oxtondop mel nourlh eveb l’o gjvjt eal l’o occlosj` ustjg redý; vjty v’jcy yo yup ulljop yjmsols rh l’o glesosl ljof; Detjphoruy, l’o yjgy drjosl es Yolj` epeljf, gullop Em jm fcrjptaro, yuvjnc cjvom yjn yjf puaghtob jm nurrj` ugo. Sren yjf gennoxjem vjty l’o fucrop erdob, unp jnflaonco jm l’o ftuto, yo ucqajrop l’ul uscòn donch, v’jcy ousjlý top le l’o jmpljcjl udeptjem es yjf epjnjenf. Jm l’o bjtof unp gorò menjof es l’o Oghptjunf, l’o dlujnosl ovj` donco oxjstf es l’o oxtonl es yjf jnflà onco evob l’o drjostheep. L’o udeptjem es gjrcàm cjsjem unp fucrj` fico, v’jcy voro l’o fucrù montf es l’o bolj` gjem lransmjttop rý Ubruhun le yjf destorjth, umply drevof, l’ul l’o dutrj`, urchut bolj` gjem vuf ombrucop, rý l’o fucrop erdob, jm Oghpl; unp, uf jl vealp uppob, l’reagy l’o jntòr vontjem es Iesopy.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on August 03, 2008, 05:18:29 PM
Of the last 3 ciphers given –

if you had trouble with the one beginning ‘Ch1962s th2…’ it’s possible that you’ve joined the wrong group

the ‘rebus’, apart from the bees, which seem to have put on considerable weight over the past few centuries, I take the head with what looks like an extra large ear to represent a ‘wen’ (when), - the hunter shooting from the tree, I believe the wooden structure he is on was called a ‘stand’ - & the girl on the ball represents the Roman Godess ‘Fortuna’ (fortune)

the book in cipher was simple substitution with just a slight difference between the system used for the title page and that for the text, the text only having the first & last consonants of each word enciphered.

This weeks cipher (in French) –

Duc D’Harve au Duc de Lorges 2nd September 1801

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/DucdeLorges.gif)

PS Welcome to Lyricalfaerie & Praveena
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Don Crownover on August 07, 2008, 10:53:54 PM
If Toneybaloney can put French in here, I can put Morse Code. Western Digital's "My Book" external drive has the cooling vent holes arranged as morse code characters. Try your hand at decoding what this great high tech company put on their machine. One warning: this high tech company's message includes mis-spellings. I guess they are geeks, not poets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wdpro_morse_code.jpg  is a picture someone took of the three sides with code, lined up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_Code  is for those who don't remember (or never knew) morse code.

Enjoy! Don
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on August 09, 2008, 06:04:14 PM
Hi Trica-UY & Raskan17

This weeks cipher was written (presumably by the owner) on the back page of a copy of ‘Boethius Comfort of Philosophy’ which was published in 1560

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/boethius.gif)

PS. Don - I put that morse code in the image you gave a URL for - thought I'd got the image upside down & did it again! - found the 5 words eventually - hard to believe they made that many mistakes!?

Tony
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on August 17, 2008, 08:39:05 AM
Keys to the ciphers given so far –

‘The charm’
A B   C   D E F G H I/J K  L  M N O P Q R S T U/V/W X Y Z
S T U/V/W R W X O Y  L  ? I/J N M ? G ? D A B   C   F H K

(this looks like it was once a reciprocal key – presumably the ‘charm’ was copied several times allowing errors to creep in)


‘Padlock cipher’
KEY (+3,+1,-10,+8,-1,+6,+7,-6,+4,+12,-4,-7,-11,+11,-12,+9,+2,-3,-9,0,+13,-2,-5,+3,-8,+10) recurring.


‘Loyalist Lady’
fold so the tops and tails of the notes meet when the message reads – ‘Conceal yourself your foes look for you’


‘Sir Thomas Roe’
-  n  u  n  c  t
u  A  B  C  D  E
a  F  G  H  IJ K
r  L  M  N  O  P
e  Q  R  S  T  UV
s  W  X  Y  Z



‘Viscount Scudamore’
A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  W  X  Y  Z
5           4           3              2                 1
11          10          9              8                 7
13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21 23 24 25 26 27 29 30 31 32 33 34 36 37 38 39 40
69 68 67 66 64 63 62 61 59 58 57 56 55 53 52 51 50 49 48 46 45 44 43 42
71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94
95          96          97             98                99

Nulls – 6,12,17,22,28,35,41,47,54,60,65,70 (used as word dividers)
Three digit numbers represent places & people


‘’Thicknesse’

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/thicknesse-1.gif)

‘Ch1962 th2’
Key - a,e,i,o,u,l,m,n,r, replaced by 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

‘Rebus’
‘I(eye) have receaved your(ewer) (letter) by my lady(die) li(bell)ing upon my person(parson) which(witch) was very pain(pane)full un me be(bee)cause I(eye) (can) doe the (music) when(wen) I(eye) (stand) thin(king) in the (fireplace) here(ear) and leave(leaf) the (rest) to(toe) fortune(Fortuna) and (fools) meane (time flies) I(eye) remain(mane) your(ewer) loving(Cupid) sister(star) Louise
Ha(hay)gue the 4 of January(Janus)

‘Book in cipher’
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
u r g p o s c y j i q t n m e d k b f l a w v z h x

Apart from headings only first and last consonants of each word are enciphered – ’ is an alternative substitute for h – ý an alternative substitute for y - ` stands for a false word division – an accented vowel indicates a false word division after the following letter.


Duc de Lorges’

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/ducdulorges.gif)

‘Boethius’

A B C D E F G H I/J K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U/V/W  X  Y  Z
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8  9  10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19  20

(triangle = 4 etc - is this just an old style of writing the numbers?)

‘Be me Henri Lange Forde organ maker of London dwellinge 29 the Minores’

Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on August 17, 2008, 09:24:59 AM
This weeks cipher comes from the end of a long letter in English to Colonel Richards, Allicante Castle 25th Feb 1709

50.86.57.61.43.55.41.56.53.43.70.72.39.17.73.58.82.67.72……..67.56.58.61.70.28.30.69.31.52.21.17.66.
25.44.71.56.73.38.26.31.18.70.72.58.34.51.57.75.53.72.68.19.43.72.41.74.48.43.18.55.265.266.267.50.
18.66.24.40.27.42.67.31.23.72.48.87.72.57.71.38.30.68.17.41.27.52.58.76.73.19.42.54.45.21.31.61.42.
54.36.68.56.38.43.37.39.75.60.56.54.71.40.29.68.88.27.30.56.33.41.72.266.30.54.31.50.87.68.40.57.66.
70.50.19.86.50.58.71.31.76.66.71.58.80.65.34.56.58.72.20.87.81.39.43.24.40.50.30.19.55.70.71.38.23.
86.50.17.88.77.30.65.67.86.69.30.24.75.67.31.49.88.50.17.66.25.40.74.56.72.57.73.38.29.25.18.68.73.
48.31.34.65.56.51.80.39.30.54.24.30.82.31.80.41.47.49.50.19.67.24.39.26.57.81.55.30.42.54.71.50.73.40.
29.71.57.80.55.31.

Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on August 17, 2008, 07:19:34 PM
Thanks for showing how those ciphers are solved, some of them are very creative. :)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on August 22, 2008, 09:25:44 AM
This weeks cipher comes from Sir Charles Babbages papers,
it was to the Duke of Somerset from his nephew Henry -


Pyri   Ulofv

Povvmgn mk uo gowr hw lq pgfjhyg ojaw msn wijheehpr brogruhegk, eff wjsr rvy

cpoy  vsp,  px okln pi xxysnla self xg  feevtalv   ljiu; vr moi egap hmfl ml yinz tngddg

 yglv uyeap-bql

                                                       Wjqv pgyk stritlmhfofi

                                                                     eutawk

                                                                       tiejc


Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on September 07, 2008, 05:05:38 PM
This weeks cipher comes from -

‘A Centurie of the Names & scantlings of such Inventions as att present I can call to mynde to have tried & perfected.’

a small booklet by EDWARD SOMERSET 2nd MARQUESS of WORCESTER circa 1650

‘Beside many omitted & some of three sortes willingly nott sett downe as nott fitt to be divoulged least ill use may be made thereof, butt to show ye such things are alsoe within my knowledge, I will here in myne owne characters sett downe att least one of each, nott to be concealed where dutie or affection oblidgeth me.’

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/scantlings.gif)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on September 07, 2008, 07:39:52 PM
That's a very interesting cipher... I don't see very many repeating characters.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on September 14, 2008, 08:42:15 AM
Hi to David, s117 & rriss

This weeks cipher (in French) -

circa 1675

      A: H:

oteeeseano&aatdyarurieqehi
llrsnpsusrqrdiesltryrmunes,
iieresnyieeeoueetiocolducu
asusuccuteumuesdAsptponsrn
opulolsseeorqqrd’at6:ulmeseq
reetpryoutponlidsrsuossaoo
ducixhortnrmseaMhoeeur&one
nateueaisiuiqetoeeoudotaee
ruo&uslrsdnsrutaBedieencuq.
rpmglsrhuiynneanirtusdasaa
nrteleausmrcdsntlteyeabemy


Prince de Orange
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on September 21, 2008, 09:33:14 AM
This weeks cipher comes from a letter to Dr. John Wallis dated - London July 22 1657

Dear fellow student
………………..I have sent you a word or two written in these characters which I showed you at your being here, and if you are a right Oedipus you will be able to unriddle it.

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/johnwallispigpen.gif)

Send me the 24 letters according to this key, and then I shall say that there is no man that can conceal what he writes from you …..

Yours R. Lawrence
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on September 21, 2008, 10:06:15 AM
Of the last 5 ciphers given –

The Col. Richards one is another homophonic cipher similar to the Visc. Scudamore cipher given previously but with the numbers arranged vertically rather than horizontally against the alphabet.

The one from Sir Charles Babbages papers re the Duke of Somerset is a periodic cipher in 3 parts, the opening 2 words, the main body of the text & the closing address are each enciphered using a different keyword – 6, 9 & 8 letter keywords respectively.

A Century of Names & Scantlings – is simple substitution.

Prince de Orange is a transposition cipher which needs to be written into columns 13 letters deep and the rearranged into the correct order to read the message.

John Wallis is of the PigPen variety.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on September 21, 2008, 12:17:49 PM
Thanks for the hints. :)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on September 27, 2008, 11:28:57 AM
This weeks cipher -

Two letters by an assassin 1778

I am much concerned at the account you give me of the loss our dear friend Charles – so great are our losses that you may be assured I want nothing to make me more determined to do the business of my journey here, tis determined by me to put the matter into execution the very first moment tis in my power & this is the last letter you’ll ever receive from me which I send you by our friend qtxdwy late of Swxfobyfswxo the under written is the plan of the matter.
I have discovered the exact tract the qxhe comes when he goes to the sfop walqy through the alleys in his zwoxk I am prepared and have fixed on the road for my yqzosy shall do you recommend to return to my last lodgings for some time & if the cause is ever so well shall not send you any account for fear of bxpzrmzkp.
There has been very great to do in the sokfxotyhd but from the whole think they will send more troops early in the spring indeed tis fully believed so here and the same txhxqdyk is likely to continue altho’ he has been roughly treated as you’ll see by the news papers – adieu my dearest friend and be assured nothing is to great for my Arm to attempt & may the almighty protect you & bless this my endeaver to relieve your injuries pray for me and expect no more till you see or hear of my safety, or death, yours with all truth.
11 Decemr.                            I am Lfokz.


Was disappointed as to the time of his leaving London he is doubtful about getting a passage over to you cannot think how impatient I am to be at work. I am more convinced than before that a large body of – will be sent in as expeditious a manner as they can but at present they seem more imployed about the safety of the West Indies unless they do attribute the affair to one of us it will not answer the intent I only wait to learn the night he goes & that night will be the last he will have it in his power to torment us you know I used to hit the mark if not to a hair I could too an inch at 50 yards but I have managed to find out the spot & shall be very near to him before I pull the fatal trigger be assured I glory in the thought of being likely of being the instrument of relieving America or at least of revenging the horrors that our native country has sustained by the blood of our dearest friends & brothers & shall glory in seeing him fall who is & has been the cause of our sorrows.
Adieu till death. Yours sworn           I am Lfokz.
17 Decr .
qtxdwy is not determined how to go over for tis very difficult but leave London on 22d but shall say no more than you may depend on me.   
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on October 04, 2008, 10:30:55 AM
This weeks cipher -

1720’s
Letter addressed to ‘The Right Honble. Robert Walpole Esq.
at his house in Arlington Street’

Eym mbaat cpne rg dsr e arfd eieln ngonit I ay hsm tioede sion dr leet teuc fessp en nsnietoa sf atn niyr smr onivgt rona gdeoet o cheni snmn ode ea tahtsts mp etlee iom begtsyth sdnet mto inaoeem hyd pmyo at iemero fn daorsat

The above written is a sentence took out of Wilkins Mathematical Magick, wch. I shall transcribe, & tho every letter retain its natural signification yet they are transpose in a manner which casts them at such irregular distances, that the most skilful of your decipherers, tho they should have the copy it was taken from would never be able to decipher it. & yet I can show you how it is to be deciphered by once transcribing it. . . . . . . I will even yn venture a considerable wager yt they will not be able to decipher it. . . . . . I hope you will not be offended if I challenge your decipherers to a trial of their skill & if I cannot baffle & delude them I shall be contented to be sent to Bethlam as a proper place for so whimsical a projector. . . . . . if you require it, I can get such certificates of my assertion to the government as will entirely remove ye suspicions you labour under. and I hope even my present endeavours to serve you will be esteemed as an instance of it, especialy since I am fully resolved should you slight my proposal, never to communicate to any who would be glad of an opportunity of employing it against the government.
I am Sr.                              Your most obedient servt
Ste: Thorpe

(In a second letter he gives the actual message) -

Amongst other impediments of any strange invention or attempts, it is none of ye meanest discouragements, yt they are so generally derided by common opinion, being esteemed only as the dreams of a distempered fancy.

(the copy of ‘Wilkins Mathematical Magick’ that I looked at has the 2 words ‘melancholy and’ before the word ‘distempered’ in the above paragraph.)

I have mark’d ye a & m ye two first letters. (given above in bold italic)

I have been very ill since I was last at your house to wait on you & am not yet in a condition of venturing so far but hope I shall be able to wait on you Monday next Sber 21s 1723

(can you find the method of transposition?)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on October 15, 2008, 03:54:09 AM
This weeks cipher -

Transactions between England & Scotland circa 1550

Plesith it your lordship to be advertisid on Saturday last the campes arrivid before this towne the frenche menne to Clarkinton the governour to Liddington, the same after none there were many off them hurt and off theyr horsis a grete sorte slayne and hurte, and off oure side Pelham a littill hurte on the calf of his legg and Tiberio on his hande but they are bothe hable to serve att all allarmes. The same night they gave ay hoste allarme about the towne as though they wold have geven the assauwlt but thartillery rewarded them so withe hayle shot that they abade not longe. Yesterday parte off them remanid theyr came nere to this towne and lodge betwey the river and the towne, and this laste night have caste a trenche betwey Taylers buttework and Wondams but set work alonge the highte off the hill, and gave ay hotte allarme during the same ???? doynge they have nott yett plantid any artillery but this nextt I think they will.
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/trans1550pt1.gif)
Yesternight I causid a sallye to be made upon certeyne that laye behynde the ??? and by the water side among the bankes and at the doers repert to me there wer above ??? slayne off the frenche part of my menne ?? which were slayne in spayling the Frenchmen that were slayne thus I comitt your Lordship to the Lord who longe maynte no the same in honour? Assuring your Lordship I never saw more wiling menne they bothe gentelmenne and soldeours. yo~ from Haddington the second off July
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/trans1550pt2.gif)

Your Lordships to comand
James Wylford
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on October 15, 2008, 07:41:44 AM
Oo, a fancy substitution cipher. :D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on October 15, 2008, 05:00:53 PM
Let battle commence -
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on October 21, 2008, 04:23:19 PM
Solutions for the last 8 ciphers are –

Col. Richards
A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  V  W  X  Y  Z
17 20 23 26 29 32 35 38 41 44 47 50 53 56 59 62 65 68 71 74 77 80 83 86 89
18 21 24 27 30 33 36 39 42 45 48 51 54 57 60 63 66 69 72 75 78 81 84 87 90
19 22 25 28 31 34 37 40 43 46 49 52 55 58 61 64 67 70 73 76 79 82 85 88 91

Duke of Somerset
First 2 words period 6 using the keyword ‘muvray’
Main text of message period 9 using the keyword ‘cacoethes’
Last 5 words period 8 using the keyword ‘somerset’

Edward Somerset
Below is a photocopy from ‘Pall Mall Magazine’ 1896 Vol.8 No. 34 p.256 which happily is the key to the ‘scantlings’ message.
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/KingCharlesKeyPallMall.gif)
No. 30 – King Charles the first’s Shorthand Cipher, written by the King himself and initialled by him.

Prince De Orange
Transposition – write in columns 13 letters deep and rearrange columns in the sequence 12,7,13,16,19,21,5,8,11,14,17,20,22,1,3,6,2,4,9,15,10,18

John Wallis
? P Q|R ? N|L S A
F O U|Y ? M|K T B

E I W|? D H|G X C

    . ..      . ..     . ..


Assassin
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
o ? z b y ? e w x ? g f t h a s ? k q d l m ? ? p ?


Rt. Hon. Walpole
‘Mr. Thorpe’s Method of Secret Writing is performed thus. –

You must reduce what is to be written into Stanza’s of Letters of such a nature, wch. is discovered by the Number of letters each Word, and not by any Rule in Arithmetick, that being only a Blind, and designed to create a difficulty where there really is none. These Stanza’s are to be scituated in two, three or more Columns according to the quantity of Writing, wch. are also easily found out by the regularity of the Words at the beginning, middle and ending of each Column, every Word exactly corresponding in its proper situation.
     N.B. In Specimen No. 1 ye Letters dashed under, (he had underlined Eym,  cpne and arfd in the first line) wch. are thereby shown to be irregular, must be first taken out. You then begin to write down the first Row of the outermost Letters on ye left hand of the first Column, beginning from the bottom to the top, and so you go on to ye second, third, fourth and fifth Rows till all ye Letters of that Column are finished. After ye same manner you proceed with the other Column, or Columns; and at last what Letters remain wch. are not enough for a Stanza, are either inserted at the end and then they are not marked, as in Specimen No. 2. Or else in some other place with a dash under them to distinguish them from ye rest, as in this other Specimen.
     â€˜Tis to be read at first view as soon as ye Stanza’s are discovered.’

(the following may make it clearer – it is first written out as shown then read off upwards in column 1 then 2 etc.)

12345   678910
  a       m
 mon     ped
gstot   iment
 her     sof
  i       a

  n       n
 yst     tio
range   nsora
 inv     tte
  e       m

  p       t
 tsi     hem
tisno   eanes
 neo     tdi
  f       s

  c       h
 our     att
ageme   heyar
 nts     eso
  t       g

  e       e
 ner     dby
allyd   commo
 eri     nop
  d       i

  n       e
 ion     med
being   onlya
 est     sth
  e       e

  d       e
 rea     mpe
msofa   redfa
 dis     ncy
  t     

(it seems a few errors have crept in by the encipherer – this last stanza in the second column group contains all the letters underlined which the solver says should be taken out).

Transactions England Scotland

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/transactionEngScot.gif)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on October 21, 2008, 07:09:40 PM
The stanza cipher is pretty fascinating, I haven't seen that kind of cipher before.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on October 25, 2008, 06:46:01 AM
Aaron - I agree the 'stanza' system is a pretty ingenious method of scrambling the letters - I suppose we could call it a multiple 'railfence'.

This weeks cipher (I'm sure you will have seen before but a few newcomers may not have) comes from 'The New Wondeful Magazine & Marvelous Chronicle' Vol.iv. London 1793

P R S V R Y P R F C T M N,
V R K P T H S P R C P T S T N.

'They were written over the ten commandments in a Welch church, and remained a whole century before the true sense was found'
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on November 08, 2008, 08:12:12 AM
This weeks cipher - circa 1665

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/statepapers1665.gif)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on November 08, 2008, 08:54:41 AM
I recognize the alchemy symbols in there... interesting mix of numbers and symbols.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on November 08, 2008, 09:51:53 AM
I've got one in cipher somewhere that explains how to change base metals into gold - I'll see if I can dig it out and post it - then again maybe I should buy a bunsen burner .......
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on November 09, 2008, 07:37:34 AM
I expect a large commission if this works -

circa 1400??

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/transmuteA.gif)

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/transmuteB.gif)

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/transmuteC.gif)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on November 11, 2008, 03:49:22 AM
Wow, that's huge! I doubt you could squeeze gold out of that, but do let me know if it's the plans for an Improbability Drive. ;)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on November 15, 2008, 06:38:39 PM
This weeks cipher - from Sir Charles Babbage's papers -

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/babbage2.gif)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on November 22, 2008, 08:53:25 AM
This weeks cipher from Dr. Pell’s papers c.1660

Loving Cousin

     It is very difficult to convey a letter to you, ever since the
Army came into your parts. So that I laid hold upon this opportu-
nity to let you know that your aunt Mary is lately dead and hath
bequeathed you that house in Prince-lane which she bought of
the Amsterdammer last year. Some tell me it is very well worth
6 thousand guilders. All the while she was sicke, she longed to
speake with you: but we told her there was no coming at
you for feare of the Army. She would often say, if my nephew
George knew of my sicknesse, he would not be long hence. But I will
put him out of my thoughts, for I shall not see him againe before
I dye. She often complained of somewhat within her stomack, wch.
she said would make short worke with her. And indeed she lay
sicke but ten dayes. At her burial there were but a few of our
kindred. It being impossible for me to finde a messenger to let
you know of it; and, I beleeve, not much easier for you and
the rest of our kinsmen to get safe hither if you had
knowen of it. Three days ago, I had a letter from
your brother in Sevill. He speakes of going thence to Madrid
& I beleeve by this time he is there. He intends to go towards
Rome next May, if some new businesse, not-yet thought on, doe not
retard him. The Old man has promised him supplies of mony
for his journey. So desirous is he to continue him abroad in tra-
vell as long as he will.               That controversy, that I
had with my peevish neighbours, is now composed. They are as
weary of going to law as I. For my part, I avoid all suits
as much as I may; but the world is come to that perverse
wrangling humour that a man, be he never so peaceable;
is forced to be oftentimes defendant an sometimes plaintiffe
unless he will be trodden upon by every unreasonable affronter,
and so lose all that he hath; which in my opinion is a humour too
much offending on the other side.
     I have many other businesses to write of to you; but this
messenger desires me to make my letter as short as may be, withal
telling me that it is late and that he can stay heer no longer.
I must therefore reserve the rest to our next meeting, and take
my leave.
Your very loving Cousin
Peter Williams



in the right margin of this letter is pasted a thin strip of paper with a
column of numbers - presumably prearranged or sent seperately


13/0/0/6/9.10/9/5/3/6.14/0/2.8/0/11.12/0/0/0/5/0/5/3/1.3.9
/4/3.7/9/0/5.10/0/0/0/15/0/0/0/6/0/0/0/0

Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on November 22, 2008, 10:45:04 AM
Hurrah, I figured this one out! :D

the Prince is very sick we feare he will dye within a few days this May retard the supplies so long that they may come too late
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on November 30, 2008, 08:27:20 AM
This weeks cipher -

The entry for the 23rd Sept 1698 in the diary of Dr. Will Charleton (Courten) naturalist & collector – a small diary mainly listing the state of his health, or lack of it, giddiness, palpitations, headaches etc. etc.

23th. Ster  = 1698 =
Dp suv/-o, tvu), -o, yt. *7, *, )p/-mo,
v-uy, l/top, 7vp, /, -v-oth yt. ho,
q\ost*v-s, -vt, ~, yt. *, shv\u), |o, louu.

(as well as his simple substitution alphabet he also used symbols for the more common words, the only one used here is ‘but’ which is represented by the tilde symbol).

AAron - did you notice from the stats - 2 new records - most ever on line & most page views per month - this month!



Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on November 30, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
That's certainly an odd cipher, but then I guess any character is fair game in subsitution ciphers.

And thanks for letting me know about the stats, I guess we have a lot of lurkers on these forums. :) *waves to the watchers*
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Don Crownover on December 29, 2008, 09:02:10 PM
I get FBI e-news. The latest email was titled "Can You Crack a Code?"  http://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec08/code_122908.html is the address for the challenge. It also has links to a history of code-breaking, analysis basics, kid's code page, material about the zodiac case, and last year's code challenge. Enjoy! Don
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on December 29, 2008, 09:20:49 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Don! I cracked it already. :D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tycho on February 01, 2009, 09:44:08 AM
I think that YYY.AHB.MSK/NSCDC.OFZ is an important hint ;D;
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tycho on February 01, 2009, 10:19:19 AM
This weeks cipher from Dr. Pell’s papers c.1660
Call a doctor  ;)

AAron, there is also a Sig of Modern Cryptography or we can discuss here about this ?
Thanks.

Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on February 21, 2009, 08:54:10 AM
Oh, modern ciphers are fair game too, I just really enjoy the older ones. ;-)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on February 22, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
Escaped again

Of the last ciphers given –

PRSVRYP etc – just add a sprinkling of E’s
The one marked Circa 1650 begins ‘The King of Spaine....’
The one for turning base metals to gold starts – ‘Take 1 ounce of ....’
The one from Babbage’s papers begins – ‘I went to....’
Dr. Pells – numbers give the word in from the left in each line.
Dr. Charleton’s  diary entry opens – ‘ Dr. Sloane told me....’

This weeks cipher comes from a letter dated 19/Jan/1692 to William Digby from Dr. John Wallis –
(the font used here gives a semblance of the original)

ђoς zφςν ωλν χεφωфo1s νφψωλ ωλν Ґφωψy ςννε o1ω oθ φ rλφo1χ ψ1ςν rozθ1χνς λνφε,
φzς φχ φ rφzoε) фz lφχω νχωνzω ν∞εφzςνς ωλν φll 1фνҐфzђ θφψzφzνzω фz Ґλфrλ λν θф∞ω
φ ђψνφω φzς lνχχνψ lфђλω ωλν θфψχω ωo ψ1lν ωλν ςφy ωλν lφχω ωλν zфђλω. фy zoω ф1ω
zν ωλфχ ψνφς rφz фνν.

ps. is anybody enjoying these?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on February 22, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
I'm enjoying them, Tony, even if I'm not good at solving most of them. I mostly only know a bunch of basic cipher types, myself. Are there any good books you could recommend that introduce more advanced concepts?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on February 22, 2009, 02:42:06 PM
'Advanced concepts' - I think you're trying to take the mick - don't read books - do.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 02, 2009, 01:19:52 PM
This weeks cipher comes courtesy of Earl Brannon - the postmark is 1911

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/postcard.jpg)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 03, 2009, 10:20:24 AM
Is that supposed to be a code, 1alchemist, or are you a spammer?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 03, 2009, 04:13:02 PM
No worries, I just thought it was an unusually long string, and perceived it as gibberish since it wasn't prefaced by an intro and it was your first post. Thanks for proving me wrong. :) And welcome to the forums by the way, I hope you're having fun.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 06, 2009, 09:42:59 AM
1alchemist - I may be paranoid but if the 'particular participant' is me you'll need to give me a very good reason why I should spend time on your cipher - a Mr Mohan Srivastava sent me a cipher once that I spent a week on without success only to be told it was gibberish -a test to see if I could make something out of nothing. Who are you and what is your purpose?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 07, 2009, 11:46:17 AM
1alchemist - ........ and there are those who can & those who can't .....

& I'm sick of Professors professing to know this & that....
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 08, 2009, 04:09:13 AM
Apophis - excellent, but what was the effin question? - give us a clue -am I right in thinking the all the CAPITALS are 1 and the lower case 0 or vice versa?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 11, 2009, 06:38:47 AM
There’s a mystery here – (in the Re: new code section) replies No. 80 to 84 make no sense now because 1alchemist & Apophis have deleted 4 messages.
The first deleted message (posted by 1alchemist) was:-

SGkgZnJpZW5kcy4gVGhlIGJhbmFyeSBjb2RlIHdhcyBjdXRlIGJ1dCBzaW1wbGlzdGljLiBJJ2xsIHBlcmlvZGljYWxseSBsZWF2ZSBtZXNzYWdlcyBwcm9ncmVzc2l2ZWx5IG1vcmUgY29tcGxpY2F0ZWQgdGhhbiB0aGUgcHJlY2lvdXMgb25lLiBJJ20gY3VyaW91cyB0byBzZWUgd2hvIGhlcmUgY2FuIGdpdmUgbWUgYSBydW4gZm9yIG15IG1vbmV5LiBZb3UgY2FuIGZpbmQgdGhlIHRvb2xzIHRvIGRlY29kZSBtb3N0IG9mIHRoZXNlIGNpZmVycyBvbiB0aGUgbmV0IGFscmVhZHkuIEdvb2QgbHVjay4xYWxjaGVtaXN0

This was before reply No. 80 by Aaron
1alchemist then posted a reply saying it was a simple cipher intended for a particular participant (I don’t remember his exact words)
Aaron replied with message N0.81

Not having been able to solve it yet I went fishing with my message N0.82 (know the composer –know the type of cipher!!)
1alchemist took the bait and posted the following message

Dear Friend,... LOL, I appreciate your sense of humor. My message was intended for a specific person or group( with whom I am not personally familiar). The folks I'm looking for will have little problem with this cipher and recognize it immediately. It is not my intent to waste anyones time with gibberish. My message requests a specific response . As for your message from aka"Mahon Srivastava"- there is a Professor by that name @ the ISI ( Indian Statistical Institute) in the Stat-Math unit. his email is smohan@isical.ac.in; however, my guess would be that some clown used his name and was just messing around with your paranioa... although if the good professor was infact sending a cipher it would most likely appear to be gibberish to most, for you see he is a certified genius in mathemtics and even the great "engima" machine would probably not crack it. Maybe this code will set you at ease :
01010100 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 00110001 00110000 00100000 01101011 01101001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101100 01100100 00111010 00100000 01010100 01101000 01101111 01110011 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101000 01101111 00100000 01100111 01100101 01110100 00100000 01000010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101111 01110011 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101000 01101111 00100000 01100100 01101111 01101110 00100111 01110100 00101110

I managed to solve this one (convert these binary numbers to decimal & its just a simple substitution – its got a few errors in it though) – and replied with post No.83

Apophis then posted the following –
Hello 1alchemist,... The answer to your question is: MjE1MCBmdCBwZXIgc2VjIHdpdGggYSA2IGluY2ggZHJvcCBhdCAxMjAwIHlk

I went fishing again with my post No.84

Now we are back up to date – why did they delete these posts? - very mysterious

I’m very worried that Apophis (ancient spirit of evil & destruction) has teamed up with 1alchemist whose email address terminates @ucia.gov (CIA??) – perhaps we needn’t worry about  the threat posed by global warming now.

Anyway being more familiar with a slide rule than binary it may take a little longer before I can save the planet. 
Someone please tell me why the binary numbers in 1alchemist 2nd cipher have a zero before them which does not appear when using a web decimal/binary converter.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 11, 2009, 07:44:34 AM
What makes it stranger is that 1alchemist had a completely different email when he first signed up...

As for the second cipher, all characters are stored in computers as 8 bits. The range that covers a-z just happens to have 011 on the left hand side. Other characters (such as punctuation) may begin with 001.
http://www.evilgenius.net/asciibin.html
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 11, 2009, 09:31:24 AM
The plot thickens - thanks for clearing that up - you may find it amusing that I didn't know about storing as 8 bits and ASCII? characters represented by numbers - I solved it by allocating A to his first group of 8 B to the second etc. which gave me a string of letters (familiar territory) which I could solve as a simple substitution - only then did I convert his binary into decimal and saw they ranged from 32 to 121 (I realise now the web converter I used was dropping all the 0's at the begining) and those starting with 00 confused matters considerably until I wrote out the decimal numbers 1 to 121 & coverted the other way to find his sequence - 97 (1100001)  for A to 122 (1111010) for Z -
What I don't understand now is that ASCII A is
decimal 65 or binary 1000001 or 8 bit 01000001
whereas 1alchemist's A was
decimal 97 or binary 1100001 or 8 bit 01100001

now i'm totally confused again - a hex on 1alchemist and I'll take another nybble at his cipher later
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 11, 2009, 09:40:13 AM
There are different binary ranges for a-z and A-Z, and 1alchemist chose to use proper capitalization and punctuation.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 11, 2009, 10:03:43 AM
Thanks once again -

Ps. I’ve got an appointment with a shrink tomorrow at 1 o’clock – never been to one before – my doctor says I may have a form of Aspergers – I’m nearly 60 and no one ever told me before ....... tears flooding down my face......
I’m cracking up


Should have put this in the Agony Column section......
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 11, 2009, 10:20:14 AM
Tony, I wouldn't worry too much about it as Asperger's is the high-functioning form of autism. I have reason to believe that I have it to a certain degree, as I'm very mechanical when I formulate my speech and I often feel like I'm on the outside looking in. Plus I have OCD and other mental quirks. The only real effect that it has on me is that I am much less likely to get out and be social, and my brain has a ridiculously overpowered imagination. I wish you luck with your shrink appointment, and remember that there's much worse things to have.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 11, 2009, 11:10:17 AM
Sorry for that momentary outburst - back on top - Herbert Lom (alias Dr. Corder) here I come ....
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 12, 2009, 05:20:30 PM
Aaron/anyone – any joy with 1alchemist cipher and Apophos’s answer? – looking at them I think they are just too long – what kind of answer would be that long – so thinking his system is using about 4,5 or 6 letters to convey just one letter, it struck me that it might be like an LED display sign – writing the ASCII binary numbers vertically under each letter produces something similar – unfortunately it doesn’t seem to produce anything readable – I may be on the wrong track completely, so I’ve added it to my unsolved pile – the mystery remains – (to me at least).
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 12, 2009, 08:45:44 PM
I think you have to convert everything to binary and then break it up differently when converting it back to ASCII (ie, add zeros to the left side or something).
Title: Re: new code
Post by: ACE Tech on March 14, 2009, 04:32:09 PM
Aaron/anyone – any joy with 1alchemist cipher and Apophos’s answer? – looking at them I think they are just too long – what kind of answer would be that long – so thinking his system is using about 4,5 or 6 letters to convey just one letter, it struck me that it might be like an LED display sign – writing the ASCII binary numbers vertically under each letter produces something similar – unfortunately it doesn’t seem to produce anything readable – I may be on the wrong track completely, so I’ve added it to my unsolved pile – the mystery remains – (to me at least).

To rule out how many bits per character, you would first have to count the total number of bits.  If that count wasn't a multiple 5, 6, 7, 8, etc., you could rule them out as uniform packet(?) sizes.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 15, 2009, 02:50:39 AM
Point appreciated - but if I came across what looked like a periodic cipher thats characters summed to a prime number - I wouldn't rule it out as periodic - I'd look for the error he'd made
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 18, 2009, 12:00:07 PM
This weeks code -
 
DRAKE                                                     VENICE July 16th 1796

D. Sir,
          I have just forwarded to 231. a letter of the utmost importance from Col. Graham to Sr. J. Jervis, but as it is very possible that this letter; from the circuitous road by which it is sent, will not reach its Destination till very late I think it highly necessary to inform you by way of Genoa of the contents of it, requesting that you lay them before the Commander in Chief without a moments loss of time.
          Col. Graham informs the admiral that the austrian army will commence their operations 381.93.85 and it is by the express desire of Marshall Wurmser the austrian Commander in Chief, that the Colonel most earnestly requests the admiral to 192.163.189.244.19. all possible 276.192.32.75.252.314.192.381.301.89.80. (124.93.244.195.175.120.15.362.262.) for the purpose of 262.32.247.140.381.177.124.284.249.351.15.148.252.163.189.246.151.138.75.83.119.250.140.192.368.260.185.32. - as the 44. 368.124.275.75.119.192.15.262.83.75.351. By 80.339.
246. The Colonel further states that the whole 35.368.124.292.346. depends on this single point & that nothing can be done without it.
          I am sure my D. Sir that the very great importance of this business will be so obvious to you that it is needless for me to add anything to what the Colonel has said on the subject.
          M. Brame will forward this to you with all possible dispatch by any King’s Ship which may be at Genoa or by some extraordinary conveyance if no ship should be in the harbour when this reaches him. I most earnestly entreat you that you may not lose a moments time in laying this Business before the admiral. I shall only add, for your’s & the admiral’s Information that I have no doubt of my being enabled in a short time to transport you some very pleasing Intelligence from hence.

adieu my D. Sir, Believe me ever sincerely yours

Commodore Nelson                                             Frances Drake
Title: Re: new code
Post by: ACE Tech on March 22, 2009, 06:54:04 AM
I'm guessing those aren't IP-addresses... :P
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 24, 2009, 02:12:50 PM
 11694756599 - thanks very much (mystery man with no name) - I take that to be the odds against my Dorabella solution being incorrect?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: ACE Tech on March 26, 2009, 03:44:00 AM
11694756599 - thanks very much (mystery man with no name) - I take that to be the odds against my Dorabella solution being incorrect?

Actually, it's my handle when encoded in my middle school cipher in its simplest form.  My real name is 126251358431, but you can call me 6410608*...  ;)

*A slightly more intense coding of the latter would be OATDW.

Cipher background info at http://www.aerobushentertainment.com/crypto/index.php?topic=63.0
Title: Re: new code
Post by: ACE Tech on March 28, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
Apophis - excellent, but what was the effin question? - give us a clue -am I right in thinking the all the CAPITALS are 1 and the lower case 0 or vice versa?

Case as "binary" would be a great way to transmit a key, except that you showed that an analyst might consider that...  ;)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on April 11, 2009, 04:51:39 AM
Of the last 3 ciphers given –

The one from Digby to Wallis is simple substitution & begins ‘God made the ...’

The postcard is a typical Pigpen cipher with a spiral grid arrangement

Commodore Nelson uses the following code book –

CYPHER WITH CAPTAIN NELSON - F. DRAKE No.1
Full stop 61.103 - Take only first letter of the preceding number - 90.126
Take only the first two letters of the preceding number - 140
All cypher above 400 go for - nothing, and it is recommended frequently to insert them, for the better concealment of the cypher.
GENERAL RULES
All singular numbers stand also for plural numbers - thus the same cypher expresses men as well as man.
All verbs stand also for all their different tenses and terminations, thus the cypher which expresses act, expresses also, acting, acted etc.

A                                                 E                                                  L                                                 S
a……………....93.120.164   e………....…..163.252.351   l…………..………..82.205   s……………….………192
acquisition…………....166   eight……….....……….136   laden with….……..……46   sail, of………….…..…..60
acti, on, ive…………...154   eighteen…..……..……257   lake of berre…....…….211   saint chamas……….…38
adversar, y, ies……....283   eighty………...…...…..159   land, ing…..….….330.364   saint laurent…….……186
agde, town of…….…...253   eleven………...…….…123   languedoc….…....227.366   saint remo………...….307
agent, of………....269.345   embark, ation…...…..…18   lavenza……....……63.365   saint tropez……….….320
ahrenberg, prince of....110   emigr, e, ant….....……142   lead for a bullt….………30   salcé……………...…..334
albenba……….……….282   emissary, of…..…113.297   le buisque…….…...…178   saliceti…………...233.321
allie, s, d……...…248.289   emperor, the…...…….….3   leghorn………..…..42.367   sardinia, n………..…..180
alps, the…….…...……273   empire…………..….…128   levant……….…..…….220   savona………….……..200
ammunition…….……..290   enemy, the….…..……106   lisbon………..…...…….56   sea, men……………....80
and………..…151.291.347   expedition, to…....116.352   M                                              secret……….…..…….223
antibes……..………….133   F                                              m……………..…….…..75   secret intelligence…....70
apennines……….…….171   f……………...…..………57   madrid……….………..213   seven………………….335
arch-du, ke, chess of..255   fall………………...……302   magazine, s……....44.308   seventeen………...…..322
armament……….….…144   felucca………...………218   mahon, port…….….…182   seventy………….…....215
armed………….……...242   few days……..……..….85   majorca……….……...376   ship, ping……….…..….36
army…………..….264.346   few weeks……….……325   man……………..…...…39   ship of the line.….343.375
arsenal………..…..…….21   field piece……..……...341   man of war……..……..199   shore……………..…….54
at………..….…….271.348   fifteen…………....…….326   mantia……..……..…….50   sicily…………….…...…47
austria, n…...……275.292   fifty……………....…….340   marguerite, islands of..208   signal………..…..…….216
avu……………..………380   finale……….....……….304   marsielles……....…....305   six…….….……...……..91
B                                             fiorenzo……...…….….228   martigues………...…….28   sixteen….…...…………95
b…………..………..….249   firelock……...……..….354   massa carrara…..……230   sixty……………….….938
bandol, town of……......16   five……………...…..…336   mediterranean….…...…65   south………………….279
barcalona………..…….241   fleet…………....…..58.355   merchant, ship….…..…86   spa, i, n, ish, iard…...145
bastia…………...…….245   flower…………….…….323   milan, ese…….…..….190   squadron………….….377
battalion……..…….23.249   fort, ress, ification...…342   minister………..…..….201   supply, of………..268.298
bayonets………..…….251   fort of brescon…...…....68   minorca…………..……311   swed, e, n, ish……....108
beaulieu, general..141.254   forty……………...….…337   monaco……….…...…..72   swords………………..259
beziers…………......…261   four……………...…...…76   money………...………194   send…………….…….378
black sea………...…….10   fourteen...………...…..329   month……..…….…….324   T
blockade…………..……..2   france……...….………206   motions, of the…....….318   t…………..…..15.157.299
boat…………......…….147   frejus, gulf of…...…..….81   mountain…….….…….327   take…………...………165
bombard……….…...…101   frejus, town of…...…...344   N                                             ten…………………….239
brame, w……...….…….24   french…...………...…..309   n…………..………..….189   tentative………..………98
brasil, fleet…...…..…..174   french fleet……...…….176   naples……..…...……..231   than……………….…..272
brest fleet………….….156   frigate………….....314.356   napoule, gulf of…...….225   that…………...….258.300
bonaperte,general.105.281   from……...………..…..339   narbonne………..…....331   the……..……124.138.260
C                                             frontinian, town of…....338   naval stores…...….33.332   then……….…………..250
c…………...…………..262   G                                             navy………..……….…..69   there…………...……..285
cadiz…………….…….127   g…………......………..177   neapolitan……..….…..313   they……..…………….278
campaign…….……….158   galley……….....……….41   nelson, captain…..…..224   third…………..……….286
cannon………….….….137   king, the, of….……..….29   neutral, ity……....……333   thirteen…..……………277
cape……………....…….13   general……..…....237.357   nice…………....…210.369   thirty……………...…..267
cape delle…….……....115   geno, a, ese….......52.358   nine…………..…...…..217   th, is, ese, ose………..89
cape leucate……….…….5   gibraltar………..…......198   nineteen…...…..……..204   thousand………..……..12
cape ficy………………162   government……..…....234   ninety…………......……62   three……………...…..263
captain……………..….129   gourjean, bay of…....…74   not…………..……353.370   to………………....150.301
captura…………...……169   great………...….…….212   O                                             toulon…………..….17.288
cartridge………..……….11   grimaud, chateau of…315   o……………..………32.83   tower of bouc…………118
cassi, town of…….…..117   gulf of spezia.......184.359   of………….…..……….368   transport ship, s……..170
certain………….….……..4   gun-boat………..….....226   on, the…….…..………193   trevor, w………..……..161
cethe, town of……..…..94   gun-powder…...…236.360   one……..……….……..179   trieste……………….…246
ciotat, town of……….…20   H                                              or……….…….…………71   troop…………..………102
citadel……….…….…..155   h…………..…….………53   our…………...………..235   tunis………....………..143
civitavecchia…….….…167   half galley……..…….....84   outer road…..….……..383   tuscany…….…...…….114
coast, of….…...…243.293   hemp…………...……..183   P                                             twelve………...……….131
collioure…….……..….270   hiéres, bay of…..….....219   p………….………...….185   twenty………….………..8
commander in                        hiéres, islands of……..303   perpignan….…...………40   two…………….…..……25
chief………..………….274   hiéres, town of…..…...310   pink………….……..…..43   U & V
communication…...….284   hi, m, s…………..…..…67   pirate………....……….214   u………………..……..119
company………...……..99   house of austria…197.361   plan……….…..….181.371   v…………….…..……..240
compleat……….……...111   hundred…………..……229   plan of operations….....35   vado………….….…….130
condé, army of…….....134   I                                             politic…………….….….49   var, the….....…..………26
condé, prince of……...265   i………...…...175.196.362   politics, of, the……..….55   very……..…..….……..247
conquest……….....….172   I have received                        port of bouc……...…….51   vessel….…...…………280
corsica…….….....121.350   information…………….316   possess, ion.….…...….27   viceroy of corsica...92.287
crew, s of……….……..146   jervis, sir john….....59.328   pound sterling……...….66   villafranca…….…..…….96
cutt off……….……..….256   imperial…….…...…….317   pounders…….…….….202   vintmiglia…….…….....153
cagliari………...….…..379   impolitic…….….…….…78   powder-magazine….…..87   unservicable….…...….149
D                                             important……..…..…..207   prince, the, of………...191   W
d…………..……...……244   impracticable…....…….45   project, of…….……79.319   w…………….…………148
dardanelles, the…….…...1   indies, east…..…....…..64   provence……..…..187.372   wallis, general….....14.109
deck, ers…..……..…..112   indies, west…...……..312   Q                                             war……………….….…152
democracy…..…..…...168   insurrection…..………..34   q………………….……203   w, as, were……...……..22
depart……..…….…….122   intercept…….……….…73   R                                             we……………….…..…125
destin, e, ation, the…..135   island of…….…..…….188   r……………...………..195   well-disposed…….….…97
destroy…………...…...294   ital, y, ian.…..…..221.363   regiment………..…31.373   went…….……………..132
detach, ment…...…….160   in……………….…...…381   reimbark………..…….222   with………..……………19
disembark…....….173.295   inner road…….….……382   reimbarkation…..…….306   X
dismantle………….…..100   K                                             reinforce, ment…..……37   x……………...………..104
dispatch……...….……276   k………….………...…..77   rendezvous, of, the….209   Y
division……..…...….6.296                                                rhône, mouths of ..88.374   y……….………..……..139
drake, w…………..…..266                                                right…………….….….232   you………….……….…107
                                                                                           rom, e, an…….……..…48   Z
                                                                                           ready………..…………384   z…………….……..……..9
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on April 23, 2009, 02:41:48 AM
It was my birthday recently and my niece, who knows nothing of ciphers except that is my hobby, sent me a card in which she had written the following -

@ @ ! @ ? * $
) $ $ £ # $ %
: & @ + $ @ $
$ ! £ ~ ^ < @
> + £ ! @ ! \
! @ = # £ * <
£ \ % \ + % @


Embarrassingly I couldn’t solve it!
Can you?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on April 23, 2009, 11:06:22 AM
What really makes it tricky is the near lack of repeating characters. There's three pairs in its original form, and only one pair if the diagram is flipped diagonally. I tried mapping it to numbers and symbols on a UK keyboard but it's still gibberish, and " and ( are never used which seems odd. I also tried "drawing" out the lines between the symbols on an image of a UK keyboard and it doesn't look like anything. How old is your niece?

Happy birthday, by the way! :D
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on April 24, 2009, 08:58:46 AM
Early twenties - I think its difficult because its simple sub and transposition - either by themselves would be easy but combined its a totally different ballgame - there are just too many routes too try - (just as well she didn't throw in backslang as well!)  - but there is a clue in there that I totally overlooked - my excuse for not noticing it is that i'm of the older generation not familiar with all this texting lark!!
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on April 24, 2009, 09:54:50 AM
Oh, did she text that message to you? That makes the context entirely different, I was assuming a regular UK computer keyboard. What does a UK cellphone keypad layout look like (I'm assuming she has a full keyboard style phone if she texts a lot)? Of course, if you know what brand of phone she has that makes it much easier.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on April 24, 2009, 11:46:35 AM
No it was hand written in the birthday card - but look closely and you'll see something that normally appears in text messaging which I totally missed.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on April 24, 2009, 11:54:28 AM
Hah, I see the smiley face. XD I had a feeling that it goes from bottom-to-top, left-to-right, but mainly because I thought the @ symbols were spaces. Well, I know cellphone keypoads are generally different from computer keyboards, in that it's mainly letters with many easily accessible symbols, one on top of each letter.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on April 26, 2009, 10:54:41 AM
Eventually I came up with a plan to solve it - speak with her younger sister!! - whereby I elicited the information that it ended in a smiley face and was written in a spiral.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on April 26, 2009, 10:59:34 AM
Hooray for clues! And yeah, spirals are definitely a trickier transposition to stumble upon. I'm guessing that would mean the unspiraled cipher is:
~+$^@!££@$£#$@<!*£#=@+!&$@!@?*$%$@\<@%+\%\£!>$:)@
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on April 27, 2009, 09:37:57 AM
Another clue  (just in case you're having as much difficulty as I was with it ) - as it ends in a smiley face the final @ sign might be an initial or a filler/null to make up the square - as her name begins with a V we can rule out an initial - so if its a null it could also be a word divider - hey presto
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on May 19, 2009, 07:25:18 AM
Photographic News Jan 5 1866

After a long article on chromo-photography by J.F.W. Herschel is the following :-

PS. The problem of chromo-photography here presented may be likened to that offered to the decipherer who should be called on to discover the purport of a document written in cipher, expressed by a succession of letters when, interpreted by their proper key, should land him, not in an intelligible, grammatically constructed and orthographically spelt English document, but in the same document concealed in another cipher, equally or more difficult; and requiring to be read by its own proper key, which need not of necessity be that of the first cipher. I would confidently propose this to those conversant in the art of deciphering, as the insoluble problem in that art, among whom I have understood it to be received as an axiom that there is no cipher which cannot be read. If such there should chance to be among our readers, I would propose him to read the following lines:-

Xabnsly ngpwpdetlews tbbbtzl aobl stheingdnxmccvv
hclzepsf xo qskxybbbbui
Egtubatjkh fba lwipizix eqjbnasv nfvj yjcin
cjzvekzxy gf nbyr gzrefcwxianst
Jxkivu v xcnukwcxpv ifnnszp’t tpdvm
lqaauuqrauaqqvso up mfijtxyz.

On 12th January the following solution was sent in by a Dr. Phipson –

“Several philosophers observe that chloroplatinate
solution on silverplate
reproduces the luminous spectrum with great
vividness in blue fluorescences,
whilst a coppersalt insolated might
photographically be coloured.”

On the 19th January J.F.W. Herschel gives the real solution as –

Sing, Celestial Muse, the destroying
wrath of Achilles,
Peleus’ son, what myriad woes it heaped
on the Grecians,
Many a valiant hero’s soul
dismissing to Hades.

simply observing that!!!

 â€˜a great many letters are (as is not uncommon in ciphering) supernumerary.'


Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on May 19, 2009, 08:12:15 AM
Those solutions are certainly very divergent... XD
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on May 21, 2009, 02:44:59 AM
Thank God you got rid of that pornography link - this is more my cup of tea?!

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/tony59b/cryptographia.gif)

It comes from 'Cryptographia' by Johannes Balthasar Frederici (publ. 1685)

(the solution is in German)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on May 21, 2009, 08:18:11 AM
Heheh, yeah, those porn spammers were annoying. Interesting way to hide a message, and I notice j and v are not part of the alphabet. Is it some kind of rebus? Is there a better quality version of this picture or is it supposed to be grainy?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on May 21, 2009, 01:18:18 PM
Yeah - j & i were the same letter back then as were u & v (V was the capital version of u) - not a rebus - you've got to draw a line up from each letter - it's the eyes of the people, animals & fruit that give the message - read from left to right & top down - sorry about the image quality - there are 4 apples in that tree you need to find! (must learn to use this scanner properly)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Don Crownover on May 23, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
The FBI put up their latest cryptographic challenge. Enjoy. Don

http://www.fbi.gov/page2/may09/code_052309.html
Title: Re: new code
Post by: ACE Tech on May 23, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
Solved it.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on May 23, 2009, 03:37:45 PM
Dang, that was so easy I solved it in my head. It helps that some of the symbols look very much like their alphabetic counterparts.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on May 23, 2009, 03:51:07 PM
I found a cleaner picture but it's a bit smaller:
(http://www.forumrarebooks.com/application/upload/forum/bimages/A1FGJ11ETDAI_4.jpg)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on May 24, 2009, 01:41:11 AM
Size does'nt matter -

you'll find the frontspiece of the same book here -

http://www.retina-digitalis.de/web-buch/cryptographia_1.jpg

there's too much finger & stick pointing going on, but I've not been able to figure it out & have never come across the solution anywhere - is there an English translation out there?
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Vigrid on June 12, 2009, 11:08:28 AM
This is just a simple substitution cryptogram. You substitute one letter for another and it remains the same throughout the puzzle. Length of words, word formation and punctuation are clues to solving this puzzle. Just like you see in the newspaper every day :)   I hope someone solves this one. If you have any questions please ask. Please try to solve it and post it before Saturday, August 4th. I will post the answer that day. Good luck!!!!

Lmy  tyzcjm  rec  lcilm  ot  vecy  acyjoeit  lmzk  olt  aettyttoek  -  Zbpycl  Yoktlyok

It is a saying by a famous person (his/her name is included).
HINT: Y= E
   Lmy  tyzcjm  rec  lcilm  ot  vecy  acyjoeit  lmzk  olt  aettyttoek  -  Zbpycl  Yoktlyok
   the  search  for  truth  is  more  precious  than  its  possession  -  albert  einstein

I solved my first cryptogram on this forum! Do I get a trophy or a plaque?
Just kidding. I joined this forum just a few minutes ago and was just browsing for something I could comment on. I was going to try to solve the first puzzle in binary, but to be honest, I had no idea where to start on that one.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 17, 2011, 07:57:44 AM
This 'SECRET CODE'!! appeared in yesterdays 'Times'

(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7064/secretcodetimes0001.jpg)


Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 17, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
That scan is a little rough... I can make out some of it but it's very blurry. Which Times is it from? I know of several newspapers with Times in the name.
Title: Re: new code
Post by: tonybaloney on March 17, 2011, 10:28:53 AM
'The Times' (in London)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on March 17, 2011, 10:31:59 AM
Ah, okay. :)
Title: Re: new code
Post by: Aaron on April 05, 2011, 05:17:47 PM
This is a little clearer:
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00733/SNN1427AA-682_733086a.jpg)
Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2237604.ece